Black Gay AKAs---Scandal Erupts over Gay Sororities. Your thoughts?
The "Gay AKAs" are causing a stir in the black Greek world...what are your thoughts?
(photos taken from everyshuteyeaintsleep.blogspot.com)

The "male AKAs" were in the building going off: doing steplines, chants, and all kinds of dance histrionics. It was quite the site. Well apparently these guys are all over the south and the ladies of AKA are not too happy about it.
Kenyon Farrow, a journalist and friend here in New York City, recently penned a great story about the recent controversies surrounding "male chapters" of Alpha Kappa Alpha.
Check it out and tell me your thoughts. Do these so called gay sororities "demean" the legacy of Black Greeks? Or are they critical and necessary responses to the notorious homophobia of these social instititutions? Is there an in-between?
Holla.
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Black Gay “Sorority” Causes Controversy
By Kenyon Farrow
Taken from afterelton.com
Alpha Kappa Alpha (AKA), a national black sorority is reported to be considering a lawsuit against a group of black gay college students who have started their own “sorority” called Men Interested in Alpha Kappa Alpha (MIAKA).
The story broke when pictures of young Black gay men in MIAKA surfaced on the internet, posing with AKA keepsakes, using the sorority’s logo, and wearing their signature pink and green colors. The men in the photos are apparently college students at Texas Southern University and Prairie View A&M, two historically black colleges in the
Is this really a case that’s worth a lawsuit?
Do the AKAs really not know about about MIAKA?
Are the TSU and Prairie View students the first and only MIAKA?
There may be more to this story that meets the eye.
What the news story didn’t report is that there are chapters of MIAKA all over the country, mostly in the south at historically black colleges and universities. Not only are men interested in AKA, but they’re also interested in Delta Sigma Theta, and several other black sororities. A black gay friend who attends a black college in
Not only that, but with a quick online search I found a 2003 news story from from The Alestle, a paper in the St. Louis area, which reported on a “Mr. MIAKA 2003″ pageant/fundraiser a local AKA chapter held, in which the MIAKAs strutted their stuff for charity and a shot at a scholarship.
I do think there is something a little mysoginistic about men taking appropriating a women’s sorority, especially one that has been around for nearly 100 years. Why not simply start your own sorority or fraternity?
But does a lawsuit against a bunch of college students solve the problem? If these men were straight, would the national AKA be considering legal action? They aren’t hurting anyone, and in the case of the
Even in 2007, there are some places where being in a fraternity or sorority or not is the difference between having a social life or living in banishment, especially on black college campuses. Most HBCU’s don’t have an LGBT organization on campus due to the conservatism that dominates social life (many still have curfews, dress codes, and single sex housing) . And for some more effeminate gay men, pledging a fraternity may mean inviting harrassment and violence. If there were places where these young men felt they could be out, perhaps they wouldn’t need to create social clubs emulating black sororities. An NBC affiliate in
“a local student was ‘outed’ as a MIAKA, which stands for Men Interested in AKA’s. The student was reportedly so embarrassed by having his secret life exposed, he stopped going to class and has threatened a defamation lawsuit.There are rumors on campus that other male sorority members will be ‘outed’ in different ways in the days ahead.”
Black celebrity gossip blog Media Takeout also ran a few lines, but the comments are worth reading. A guy named “acidstyle” claims to be a MIAKA. He states:
TO CLEAR EVERYTHING UP:
1. WE are NOT AKA’S
2. We NEVER said we were AKA’S
3. Wade Lyle owns a percentage of ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INC.
4. It was his creative ideas that we see before us today.
5. We have much respect for ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA Someone has started something and spread lies about MiAKA and this whole situation has gotten out of hand. If someone would just ask questions and not jump to conclusions, people could be informed on exactly what MiAKA is. And all the gay bashing is ridiculous. How do you think members of ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INC. & ALPHA PHI ALPHA FRATERNITY, INC. would feel knowing that they are being bashed? This has to stop somewhere. We have more than enough respect for Alpha Kappa Alpha.
So I understand black sororities who want to maintain a “women-only” space. But I don’t think you need to threaten lawsuits or incite homophobic witchhunts to do so.
NOTE: Filmmaker Angela Robinson (D.E.B.S.) is directing the upcoming feature Pledged–based on Angela Robbins‘ book about the inner workings of the sorority house.


well I am a member of a black fraternity and I am not offended at all. first of all, I wasn't aware that this was news, as I and most alum of black colleges are familiar with MIAKA, particularly in the south. it always bothers me when heteros especially do the GASP! pearl clutch on this information, when everyone has known for years. and yes, they are "real" -- they do real service, REALLY have an KNOW their history/rituals and what have you, and show real brotherhood/siterhood, which is a lot more than some paper signing/fair weather working hetero greeks i know... but that's another conversation.
it is also important to note that the affiliations of males with sororities and females with fraternities exist on college campuses with no question when it is in the form of the heteronormative big brother/little sister auxilary relationships (e.g. Delta Gents, Alpha Angels, Kappa Sweethearts, etc.) so the ill treatment of the male AKAs is a clear homophobic reaction. i think this is clearly a result of the homophobia in black communities (not that white frats/sororties/communities are void of this behavior) in genral, and not just black frat and soroties exclusively.which isn't surprising either, given that the Divine 9 represent one of the major political/cultural/social institutions of black communities.
and for the record, i think the queer membership in black frats and sororities is a closet door that has been opened for a while. there have been openly gay and lesbian presidents/basilai of a few organizations, and I am one of many OUT lesbian and gay people that are active in my organization, financially and otherwise. yes, i understand that this is not the experience of every black gay/lesbian frat/soror. but,i do think it is quite interesting that many of us don't operate as the typical "open secret" in our orgs... i bring my partner to functions, get the frat involved in consciousness raising on misogyny/homophobia and hold my chapter brother accountable tomy identities at all times, and vice versa. just some thoughts.
ps -- i was under the impression that Miaka was an auxilary and that male AKAs used another name for their org? any clarifications out there?
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/19/2007
It is one thing to respect and honor something but to walk around as if you are one is disgusting. I don’t see how these men are uplifting or benefiting the sorority as most auxiliary groups were created to do. It should be noted that all 9 national organizations created policies in the 90s which forbade their collegiate chapters from making or affiliating with auxiliary groups because of the liability that they present to the organization. When you pledge and earn something, it is utterly wrong for someone else to just come along and claim it as their own just because they want it. Some of these men claim to have gone through the “processes” with ladies of AKA. And I can’t see any true member of an organization allowing outsiders into their secrets and processes.
This is such a touchy issue but I believe that what these boys in these pictures are doing is quite disrespectful to anyone who actually pledged any fraternity or sorority. Seeing these dudes prance around clubs twirling their pinky and ‘skee wee’ing is repulsive. This simply is a bunch of gay men who can not pledge or choose not to pledge one of the 9 and have created something that is insolent and misogynistic.
And this nonsense just continues to contribute to the stereotype that gay men want to BE women? If they really want to be a part of a community service oriented organization there are plenty out there and plenty of room for them to create their own.
And his comment about Wade Lyle OWNING a part of AKA… are you serious? When did any fraternity become a publicly traded stock? If the student at TSU did nothing wrong he wouldn’t have dropped out of school when his ‘secret life’ was exposed.
Posted by
C. Baptiste-Williams |
3/19/2007
but (for Reddman) to be a woman, is that reducible to prancing around and holding up a pinky finger? what makes *those* actions that of a woman? i think, even according to how you define their behavior, that the MiAKAs are, at the very least, transgressing social boundaries of what it means to be gendered, what it means to be sexualized (and fetishized)...
i guess the issue for me is: why does a particular gender "own" the pinky, the skee-wee, and the colors pink and green?
Posted by
AC |
3/19/2007
Why can't these black gay men start their OWN black gay faternity (or sorority)? It's not that hard to do.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/20/2007
I'm in a sorority and I'm offended. If you are not a member of the organization, do not appropriate its symbols and letters. It has nothing to do with homophobia in my opinion. The are men doing this with all the major sororities. You don't see sisters emulating fraternities. I feel like if you want an organization, start your own or join a fraternity/sorority.
MIAKA is not an auxillary organization. I am not aware of any of the sororities who have auxillary organizations. Reddmann's post is totally correct.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/20/2007
Like the raised balled fist represents black power.
Like red, green, black represents black nationalism.
When you put the pinky, pink and green, and ‘skee wee’ together it represents Alpha Kappa Alpha. This is not about who owns one thing or another, because no one does. It is about what they are trying to represent. I have never seen any auxiliary mimic their organization the way these homos are. I get annoyed seeing them prance around clubs doing the AKA or Delta party walks in gay clubs. What they are doing is disrespectful to all my friends and family members that have pledged AKA… plain and simple. If they didn’t feel this way they would do this stuff publicly and not underground.
Posted by
C. Baptiste-Williams |
3/20/2007
actually sororoties do have auxilary organizations. maybe not on your campus "anonymous sorority" but they do have them. Zeta Beaus, Delta Gents, Sigma Gamma Rho-Meos, and Miakas function as an auxilary on some campus as well. and to say it isn't about homophobia is ridiculous. you can hide behind the "start your own. org." all you want, but the fact of the matter is, the reaction is just as much homophobic as it is in detest of someone representing the org.
finally, the big question is: how did they get the history if they aren't members? hmmm... folks shouldd just accept the fact that someone in the organization has to be complicit for these persons to have the information. also, females are also claiming fraternities that are not auxilaries. read Frank's comments about the female A Phi A members.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/20/2007
they would do it publicly? just like the general pledging processes?
interesting...
Posted by
AC |
3/20/2007
The facts are correct..NPHC does not recognize auxillary organizations. I challenge you to find any information on the sororities websites regarding auxillary organizations. The fraternities who still recognize auxillaries do not allow them to wear their letters and throw up their hand signs.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/20/2007
How is it homophobic to not want someone who isn't in your sorority or fraternity to wear your colors, use your call or your hand symbols? Explain that.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/20/2007
I think we all know that what organizations sanction, and what actually happens are two different things.. sure, auxilaries are not on record, but they very much so do exist... keep it real.
Also, it is homophobic because I haven't heard anyones explanation for not wanting someone to wear the letter/colors to not be disconnected from the implicit and explicit homophobic attitudes about these being presumably gay men doing it. And, lights out on this topic for me. lol. I'm over it for everybody! gnite.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/20/2007
to anonymous above:
it's homophobic because the reasoning behind the disgust and disdain seems to be because they are men "prancing around" and throwing up signs that belong to a women's organization: they are, in some minds, trying to occupy the territory of women...they are trying to behave "like women" (through colors, through pinky-throws and through skee-phi's...)
this idea that they are trying to be "like women" is what is 1) heterosexist and 2) homophobic...in my humble opinion...
Posted by
AC |
3/20/2007
when i said publicly I was not talking about the pledging process but the wearing of the colors... the prancing around throwing up the AKA symbol... no they do all this in gay clubs and underground where no one will see them.
i doubt any of them would do any of that on the yard or a non gay function.
my "disgust and disdain" is for their lack of understanding and respect for something they claim they love not because they are homos or fem.
Posted by
C. Baptiste-Williams |
3/21/2007
my last comment:
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Posted by
AC |
3/21/2007
I'm a member of a sorority. I do not want any other woman (or man) wearing my organization's colors, using our symbols or calls. Has nothing do to with homophobia. This has to do with the fact that I'm a dues paying member of the national organization. I care about my organization and I do not think that ANYONE who has not come through the organization PROPERLY and through NATIONALS should be representing to be a member.
I am not homophobic in the least bit --I think folk should be careful in throwing that term around. I don't assume someone is racist because they don't date outside of their race. Call something homophobic when they are doing something homophobic.
No organization has an auxillary organization "underground, bootleg or otherwise" that can wear their color, throw up their symbols or do their calls. Every campus/chapter does not have auxillary organizations. I would dare say most of them do not have them considering NPHC does not recognize such organizations.
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/21/2007
Conclusions...conclsions...I love how ppl can come to conclusions and not have any facts. I am a pledge for Alpha Kappa Kappa fraternity and we are formerly known as Miaka as well as the Men of Pink and Green. Well for all of thoes who are not aware of the history of Alpha Kappa Alpha I charge you to research before you make another comment as unadvised americans often times do. However I am in awe that the the Ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha are acitng as though this is a new discovery. You have always known about us. For one if you are to look into your history as a advised lady of Alpha Kappa Alpha you would know that we are not some put togather mess. I am not pledging AKA and I don't want to pledge AKA however I do pay my repect to the organization. And again at nasum we ARE NOT AKA's and don't say thaty we are think of the whole name men interested in AKA not MEN IN AKA. Many organizations are based off of other organizatons.
You all must not know the service and dedacation we have. However I am going to stop here IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME FELL FREE TO CONTACT ME @ LTCMDRNAVY1@YAHOO.COM
Posted by
Anonymous |
3/24/2007
While some of the comments surrounding this controversy are offensive, the fact remains that these male AKA's are not members of the actual organization, and therefore should not be portraying themselves as such.
If I saw anyone, male/female/gay/str8/whatever wearing my letters, who wasn't a member of my organization, I would be offended.
I mean, if you love AKA and what it represents so much, why not create your own organization with the pink and green colors? I would still think its whack... but that is different from taking someone else's legacy altogether.
And for the record, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority IS INDEED Incorporated, thus they DO own the copyright to their symbols and such. The same way I can't open up a burger restaurant and call it McDonald's and set up golden arches because of copyright infringement, nor can you use Alpha Kappa Alpha's copyright protected imagery without their expressed permission.
If they wanted to pursue it... they would have a case.
Posted by
prodigalsun |
4/03/2007
As a member of AKA, I truly do not feel that my organization is pursuing further action because of homophobia. These guys are using our shield and imitating us as if they are nationally recognized AKA's. I'm not sure what goes on at every school, but if Miaka's are supposed to be an auxillary org, then why are they throwing up OUR pinky, wearing OUR colors and using OUR shield. I've NEVER seen other auxillary orgs throw up the 'phi/phunk', yo, hooks (although DST does which some Omega's hate), or anything like that. The least these Miakas could do is come up with their own stuff. In addition, they are going on chatrooms, and blogs like this attacking AKA's....telling us that we don't know our history, etc. etc. Why attack the sorority that you 'hold so dear to your heart'? They are a mess and I feel that the BGLT community should be on our side. I understand the remark about HBCU's not having black gay frats, but if they are that OUT that they can openly imitate a female sorority, then they can CREATE or charter a black gay (I hope that the word gay isn't offensive)fraternity. To the comment within the actual blog about the Mr. Miaka pageant, where I'm from all BGLO's have a pageant for the opposite sex. Ms. Black and Gold, Mr. AKA, Mr. Crimson and Creme, etc... I think that chapter just chose the wrong name. I don't think that it was a pageant only for gay men who want to be AKA's. Yes the winner of the pageant represents us, but they do that through community service and supporting our events. NEVER will I allow my crowned King throw up the pinky or stroll/party hop with us.
Long story short..these guys are disrespecting the sorority, and if any soror is condoning this then she is a problem too.
Posted by
Anonymous |
4/06/2007
The females posing with the Alpha Phi Alpha sign are Alpha Angels Inc. I was one of them a very long time ago. However, we never threw up the sign. This is very disrepectful.
Posted by
Anonymous |
5/07/2007
All organizations take their symbols, style, membership, etc. If a non-greek at any school were to come to campus and use the signs and calls of a greek organization the members would be upset and the non-members would think they were crazy and disrespectful. This is exactly what is happening in this case and yet many people are criticizing Alpha Kappa Alpha and it's members for being upset.
I find it unfortunate that Black men would disrespect a positive Black organization like this. Perhaps AKA doesn't have a patent on the pinky nor do they own the colors pink & green etc. but together we know those things represent their organization. We know that membership in this, and all other BGLOs, is treasured. They're wrong for this. Period.
They're wrong and they know it.
I also find it disappointing and confusing as to why they haven't just started their own organization. An organization, greek or otherwise, for educated, positive young men would be a great thing in my opinion. Sure they'd have their critics and haters but hey so don't all the BGLOs.
I admit I've never been a fan of the whole auxiliary organization thing anyway but the thing with auxiliaries is they're supposed to be supporting the organization positively and respecting the organization and it's goals and principles, the MIAKA's aren't doing that. If they truly respected AKA they wouldn't continue to participate in behavior that clearly disrespects them and offends them.
To the AKAs out there, don't let this get you down. Keep doing all the positive things that you do. To the MIAKAs out there, I hope you put an end to this foolishness and take all your positive ideas and unity and put it into and organization of your own.
Posted by
Anonymous |
5/10/2007
I'm a memeber of Alpha Angel Inc. One thing about usw in that we don't disrespect the members of A-PHI-A Inc. I'm not a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority inc but if I was one I would be mad too! If they wanted to be pretty like the AKA, they should have join Kappa Alpha Psi.I feel like it is very disrepectful for those wannabe to disrespect those ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha and they need to be in big trouble!
Posted by
Anonymous |
9/10/2007
To the men of kappa alpha psi what I said was not to disrespect your organization I was just saying that yall are pretty boys and if they feel like they were pretty they should've join you organization and stop trying to be a women.
Posted by
Anonymous |
9/10/2007
This whole thing is quite interesting. I think they should just form their own group and stop posing with AKAs shield, which is their copyrighted property. As far as them wearing pink and green ( or any other colors), I don't see what the problem is really. No one owns colors. You don't stop being an individual just because you join an organization. Same for the pink finger. Some people drink tea with the pinky finger out, eat crackers, etc. So what? No trip. Now skeeweeing is another issue, that's clearly an AKA thing. They should make up their own call. Although its offensive, AKA should just take it all in stride. They know they are not official anyway-Just chalk it up to another one of their : Firsts"--Even boys want to be like us! Don't even trip. As long as they stop using their shield, and call themselves something else, I wouldn't even worry about them anyway. Too much else going on in the world right now ( war, recession, etc). Why trip off of foolishness? No offense to anyone.
Posted by
Anonymous |
9/11/2007
I am disturbed and disgusted by the likes of the Miaka's. Although I am not a member of any organization affliated with the "Divine Nine" my family has a long standing legacy with AKA. These men lack creativeness and ambition because if they love AKA so much, why do they not want to preserve her history? Why do they not seek to start their own organization with their own trademark?
And please do not use the excuse of homophobia because I am a lesbian. I believe that as African-American's we must preserve our history. In a country where we have had our culture and music often imitated and stolen, we must preserve the very history that has shaped OUR legacy within this country and that starts with organizations like AKA.
Moreover, as a member of the LGTB community, I must say that there are a plethra of LGTB sororities and fraternities for men and women which these men should seek out since they lack the drive to create and incoporate their own.
Lastly, I cannot say it enough, but they should look into incorporating their own organiztion. I believe that it is the IMAGE of AKA that these men love. So why not create your own orgnization with your own image to serve your own community?
Posted by
Anonymous |
9/17/2007
I think its sad period...for so many reasons...just lookin at these black men ..is sadddddddening.....thats one thing in and of its selff...and to disrespect such and organization that has to much history is sad..I thnk the AkA LADIES should take this to court and these lost souls a.k.a males or Alpha phi alpha rejects whatever they are need to to put an stop to this non-sense..
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/17/2007
they need JESUS. just pray.and to the ladies of A.K.A (the real ladies) keep your heads up and do alll you have to do.
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/17/2007
Okay here goes:
1. Yes, this is disrespectful to the members of AKA, Delta, Ques,Alphas and ANY org. who are being MISREPRESENTED( male members of a SORORITY and female members of a FRATERNITY were NOT the origional/present day intentions of the orgs., so this is a misrepresentation), but let's face it, it has been around for years and to act as if it is a new trend is absurd. I agree that there should be a gay frat set up. It would provide the SAME sense of pride that these mock orgs. provide.
2. Yes, these orgs. do REAL community service, and are REAL, but how REAL are the traditions? How real/legit are the MIAKAS and similiar groups? To be honest they are NOT. The Divine Nine has been intact for many years and the mockery that is M.O.D (Deltas) and MIAKA is hard to accept, bc of the lack of validity these secret orgs. possess. It's all fine and well to sport the colors, and know the strolls and even the principles, but that doesn't make you a TRUE member.
3. Now to address these other bloggers, to say Homophobia is not a source of alot of the distatse for these orgs is garbage. Reading the comments here it is obvious that some views are drenched in prejudice. Be real, for those of you who say you hate to see these guys stroll and disrespect the AKA's, Deltas, etc. you can simply LOOK AWAY. I agree it shouldn't be done, and it is disrespectful, but so are some of the opinions on this blog!
3. To the lady saying these guys need prayer...You are absolutely right. They do! WE ALL DO! That is part of the problem with this world, TOO MUCH JUDGEMENT.
4.If the female Alphas, Kappas, or Ques ( Yes people, they DO EXIST), would there REALLY be as BIG of an issue? Something to think about...
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/30/2007
Point 4 Amended:
4.If the female Alphas, Kappas, or Ques ( Yes people, they DO EXIST),had been "outed" first would there REALLY be as BIG of an issue? Something to think about...
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/30/2007
The Latest Miaka PROBATE video on YouTube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3IFhLavH0Y
Posted by
Anonymous |
1/18/2008
Honestly, some of the comments I've seen here are kind of ridiculous. MIAKAs aren't new at all. The problem a lot of people are having is that they are now VISIBLE and the fact that they are visible somehow makes it a shame and a disgrace. Nevermind all the chapters of AKA that have been suspended for harsh hazing or "hand picking" lines instead of having an open rushing process. I think it's awesome to be quite honest. These are gay men that have decided to uphold the traditions and values of an organization that they love. Since (obviously) AKAs would never allow a gay man to cross on their line, the men took it upon themselves to make their own "clone" organization. The fact that there are people here that are actually calling these men "DISGUSTING" and all kinds of other names is silly. I know that a lot of you worked hard or are working to be apart of your greek organization, but please get your a** off your shoulders about it. How about instead of trying to SUE these men you reach out to them and come to some kind of understanding and ask them WHY they chose this organization (By the way, there are men that emulate DST too and I don't see the Deltas freaking out...just saying). This is all another example of homophobia in the black community and the long standing tradition that things that are considered "SHAMEFUL" (being gay, being a victim of rape or molestation) be kept in the dark. There is only an issue when these things are brought into the light. And FYI, yes I'm gay, and no, I am NOT a MIAKA, but I have met some and I have to say that they are a darn sight NICER than some of the "real" AKA I've met! *THROWS UP MY PINKIE AND SKEE-WEEs ON OUT THE DOOR*
Posted by
Anonymous |
1/28/2008
I'm a Delta but I'm still annoyed by the actions of these miakas. My annoyance isn't solely due to the fact that they are men perpetrating as if they are AKAs, instead it really is due to the matter of disrespecful behavior on their part. I'll give you an example. If I saw women who were not my sorors wearing my colors while doing my strolls and throwing up pyramids I would be offended and they would know it. Women who are knowledgable of BGLOs and the culture that goes with them know that this type of behavior by non-members is abhorrent and viewed as such by BGLO members. We have a word for those who dare to try this. They are called "perps" and are usually "dealt with" in an unsavory way by those they encounter. The miaka who was outted and then dropped out of school was probably being "dealt with" because he's a perp. The best bet for these miakas (and those perping as deltas and other orgs) is for them to join an already established gay fraternity or make up their own and leave the divine 9 orgs alone so that they won't have to be ashamed or go running when someone outs them and deals with them accordingly.
Posted by
at&t |
3/16/2008
There is a great deal of misinformation in this article. The Alestle is the campus news paper for Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville. I was a student (and was also expressing my interest in Alpha Kappa Alpha) there at the time of the Mr.MiAKA pageant the author speaks of. I would like to set the record straight. This was fundraiser pageant ONLY. There was no MiAKA chapter on SIUE’s campus. I was at the pageant, which was held on campus, and can attest to the fact that it was not what the author is trying to make it sound like. It was a campus promoted event. It was open to any male that wanted to compete and the campus advisor was involved. Everything was legit. There were gay and straight contestants. Some were even greek. The article in the Alestle does not mention anything about a MiAKA chapter, gay men, or any of the other hot topics surrounding this subject matter. The article was in the school paper for crying out loud. How underground or secretive could this be? In my opinion, the author was reaching; trying to make a connection where none existed. Sir, please get ALL the facts next time you want to go making assumptions. Thank you.
Posted by
Anonymous |
4/18/2008
hi,
I am not a member of a BGLO as of yet. nor am I a member of an aux group. However, I guess my confusion stems from comments, editorials, and other written statements from MIAKA's and those that claim to be MIAKA's. I do have members of my family who are apart of auxilary groups but I have never seen them perpetrate to be a member of that specific organization. Out of respect for the fraternity or sorority they fall under, they never throw up their signs (they have their own) and they never do their chants. Very rarely do they stroll together. I guess to each their own, but I think that whomever the real MIAKA's are, they should confront the fake. The reason why I say this is because I have seen pornographic pictures of men in AKA apparel and I was in shock, and very disturbed. I am not an AKA, nor do I plan on becoming one, however as a person of color (and coming from a large BGLO family) I found it disturbing and disrespectful. Once that has been handled, I think that AKA should investigate the young lady that these men say pledged them through. I think she should be in the hot seat as well. As for the "real" men of MIAKA, why not just be Cavaliers? It appears as if you have a rich history, and it would be a way to give a helping hand to AKA.
Now I dont know about the shield, but I think the shield should be an off limits thing. Once again this is just my personal opinion.
And no disrespect to any BGLO's but I think I see more Greeks strollin steppin and fighting than actually serving the community. So maybe this is a fight that can wait....
And for those of you this does not apply to, do not take offense, I am only commenting on what I have read and observed.
:)
Posted by
Anonymous |
5/22/2008
the divine nine organizations were created for community service and other reasons, and these guys are infatuated with the stereoptype of an organization and not the history of it
Posted by
Unknown |
5/27/2008
you know what? the bottom line is that you should NOT take another organizations traditions and mimic them, especially something like Alpha Kappa Alpha. They are NOT members and will never be as a sorority represents SISTERHOOD....something that these MEN will never understand as they are not women. yes, the homophobia is there, I'd be a fool to say otherwise, but they cannot just come in here and hijack an organization of which I am a proud member of and i worked DAMN HARD to earn my letters as we all did. These men are imitating WOMEN, b/c they want to be women. They can full well start their own organization/traditions, why do this to AKA? I know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. but Alpha Kappa Alpha is NOT AMUSED. Miakka may have been around since the late 60's but these men are not representing what it initially was started for, that's the point that everyone here seems to be missing. I read above "they are not hurting anyone". Yes, the hell, they are. They are hurting us an organization and making a mockery of us. This will not be tolerated and i think a lawsuit is appropiate. Just as you can sue someone for copyright infringement, they are using our tradtions, signals and it does not belong to them! AKA will most likely send these fools a letter telling them to cease and desist. I hope one of you Miakka fools are reading this too. Why do you want to Hijack AKA? Why cant you just make your own frat? I would repsect them more if they did that and wore all the purple and glitter they could as opposed to them doing what they are doing now. You will cease and desist and these shananigans will be over.
Posted by
Unknown |
5/27/2008
i am not in a greek organization and i am offended myself. not so much that these are homosexual men because some of my closest friends are homosexual. I believe if the members of MIAKA were not homosexual,there would still be a problem. This is disrespectful to the founders of every black greek letter organization and their founders. While MIAKA may do some real service I believe this group should orginate their own organization and continue their great service to the community.
Posted by
Anonymous |
9/19/2008
I am a member of Delta Phi Upsilon, the first fraternity for gay men of color. Whatever the male AKA's are calling theirselve these days only they know, but they have been around for awhile. At the same time it doesn't change what is going on. Using another organizations colors, hand symbols, calls, sheild, steps etc etc is just completely wrong. If I ever saw a non-member wearing my letters and using my fraternities hand symbol, I would be very upset. The male AKA's will never be brave enough to walk around with an AKA shirt and go do community service (like they do any), or to the mall. The only time they are an organization is in some gay club, gay party, or around other gay people. I wear my letters proadly where ever I go. I love Delta Phi Upsilon because of our uniqueness and our service mission. I have love for AKA (females) as well as any other Black Greek Letter Organization, but I do not want to be one of them.
Posted by
Anonymous |
10/05/2008
Mr. Miaka at SIUE that the writer has written about from the alestle is NOT for gay men its for straight men. Its similar to tha alphas miss black and gold pageant. Im sure these men would not want to be associated with these gay wannabes. fyi
Posted by
Anonymous |
2/07/2009
I don't believe that this is a matter of "homo phobia" exclusively. Reason being is that anyone who knows anything about Greeks would know that we do not appreciate ANYONE who poses as if they are a member of thei organization... men/women it doesn't matter. The keyword in the MIAKA name is "interested". From my experience, when a young lady comes to campus in hopes of becoming a member of any black sorority that I know, it is in her best interest not to go around "skee-weeing" or throwing up pinkies. The matter is that you are not a member and it is not fair to those of us who have put the time and effort in so that we have earned the right to do those symbolic gestures that represent the sorority. If these gestures didn't mean anything, then we wouldn't have a purpose of having them. Also in response left by one of MIAKA's members... If u want to make a point to say that your organization is NOT Alpha Kappa Alpha then why is pink & green, pinkies and the skee wee things that u have chosen to represent you when these are all symbols & gestures that the authentic members of AKA has chosen? It would be the exact same thing if we were to throw up pyramids and ooop. These are representive of Delta Sigma Theta and therefore it would be disrespectful to use them. Just like any other founder has done, get a group together and move to create your own organization with its own name, colors & symbols. For me, this is not about homosexuality because I personally could care less who you sleep with but this is about respecting those who have worked hard so that they can skee wee and etc. I guarantee I would feel the same if it was a woman. I know, because it happened before.
PROUD MEMBER OF ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA
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Posted by
Ivy Girl 1908 |
7/22/2009
As soneone who is completely on the outside looking in... This all seems extremely foolish... Aren't there bigger issues as a culture then worrying about who is wearing your color and using your finger getstures... Lol sounds alot like whats going on here in Compton with gangs... So question... All of you who are sooo disgusted with this, does it bother you when other cultures take our music and use our experiences to make a profit. Or when directors pimp us out for financial gain and recognition. This is the simplest form of flattery. I imagine these young men (who is someones son) seeing their mother grow up AKA, as I did, and wanting the opportunity to emulate her. There is no crime in that. To the gentleman who commented on them doing this in private as opposed to public... Based off of what I have read here today... They would not have been given the freedom to perform in public due to the overwhelming sense of disgust. I just really believe that with all of the horrible things out there that need our attention... This really isn't that serious!
Posted by
Anonymous |
7/30/2009
As a member of Delta Gents and I believe that a MIAKA, Delta Gent, Male Zeta and Romes are no different then Alpha Angles or Kappa Sweethearts.
Posted by
Anonymous |
11/27/2009
I just want to correct something, all we've heard is that ALL auxiliary groups are illegal. Yes most groups in the divine nine are illegal, but I was under the assumption through my research that Iota Phi Theta do in deed have a very legal auxiliary group? Is this true? I'm wanting to know because Im currently researching which greek organization I wanted to be in, and I have been researching for a year straight and like I previously stated my research has led to me to believe the Iota Sweet Hearts are the only legal auxiliary group. Is this so?
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/11/2009
Damn its not looking good for us blacks. Maybe those jinn, demons, genies whatever you are secretly calling them dont care about your colors!! they have an adjenda to eleminate the y chromosome entirely. Understand the black community is becoming aware of this fact GODS movement will deal with you also!! Every race will be. I came to this article doing research, I dont frequent anything like this so your B*T**Y comments wont amount to a hill of beans!! GOD Bless!!
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/23/2009
I am an Alpha Kappa Alpha woman and I read two comments that made me roll my eyes. First of all, an anonymous supposed member of a black fraternity (doesn't ID himself, or the supposed fraternity, and doesn't say PanHel - so saying "black fraternity" means nothing to me) says that he's not offended. LMAO Of course not!!! It has nothing to do with you!!! Why would YOU be offended???
MiAKAs "know their history/rituals" of course they know their own history and their own rituals - EVERY organization does. What other people took that to mean is that they know OURS. And some GDI at the bottom of the page said, "How do they know the history unless someone told them? Hmm..." LMAO clueless. Have you ever been on the internet? www.aka1908.com Our history is there. It's also in these things called BOOKS that you can get for free in this place called... wait for it... THE LIBRARY. Our history is not a secret. Hopefully prospective members are researching our history BEFORE they seek out membership. Further, we all learn each other's history. So even if they DO know our history - that's no big deal so do Deltas, Sigmas, Omegas, SGRhos, Zetas, Alphas and Kappas.
As for knowing their own rituals, well, I think they should. But it doesn't mean they know any of ours. And since the anonymous commenter is a member of a "black fraternity" (and trust, no TRUE Pan-Hel member would say it like that) how would he pretend to know what rituals they know, whether they are ours or their own??? Rituals are not discussed. Ever. By anyone.
And if MiAKAs are discussing their rituals, good for them. Tell your own secrets, but don't act like their ours. The thing about rituals is, since they are secret, anyone can say, "This is an AKA ritual" and only an AKA would know whether that's true or not. Only the gullible believe it.
Why is it that because they are gay and male and we don't want them using our colors, chants, strolls, steps, or incorporating our letters into their organization that we are homophobic and this is a "witch hunt" first of all, there is no "hunt." To use the term witch hunt is dumb because that implies that we're searching for these MiAKA members. We don't have to search for them!!! We know where they are! They are all over the internet brazen as day. And further, we, as an organization couldn't care less if there are gay sororities, fraternities, clubs, etc. We're not attacking those. What we are against is ANY fraternity or sorority, gay or bi, hetero, or otherwise using our colors, letters, etc. How dare they do that. If they want an organization, PERFECT. Good for them. But why does it have to be based on OUR organization???
Lastly, I'll answer my own question. The only reason these sad organizations GET any play at all, is because of our outrage. And that was exactly what they wanted. They WANTED us to be mad and outraged and shocked and disgusted, or else they would be Mu Phi Mu or Zeta Gamma Epsilon and their colors would be black and white, or something. They wouldn't be rocking our 'nalia and singing our songs. That's their way of getting exposure. It's sad to me. Sad, unoriginal, and copy-catt-ish and stupid. I hope my organization DOES sue you, and win. You should absolutely be enjoined from wearing our stuff. And all the people here that think we're homophobes just because we say that, hey, it doesn't mean some of us aren't... but that's not the point. As the saying goes, "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you." So even if some of us ARE homophobes doesn't mean that's what this is about. Get over yourselves MiAKA... no, as a matter of fact, get over US. Get your own organization.
Posted by
Karen Mills Alpha Kappa Alpha Xi Xi Chapter, Fall 97 |
2/10/2010